Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/14/2005 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:15:42 AM Start
09:16:21 AM HB 67
06:58:10 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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Heard & Held
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Heard & Held
Consideration of Amendments
                                                                                                                                
9:16:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 66(FIN)                                                                                              
     "An Act making appropriations for the operating and capital                                                                
     expenses of the state's integrated comprehensive mental health                                                             
     program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 67(FIN)(brf sup maj fld)                                                                             
     "An  Act  making appropriations   for the  operating  and  loan                                                            
     program  expenses of  state government,  for certain  programs,                                                            
     and to capitalize  funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.  At the previous hearing,  SCS CS HB 66, 24-GH1075\Y  and                                                            
SCS  CS  HB 67,  24-GH1073\L  were  adopted  as  working  documents.                                                            
Amendments offered are to these versions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken noted the need for conforming language.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:16:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  TEAL, Director,  Division  of Legislative  Finance  testified                                                            
that an error  was made in preparing  the bill regarding  University                                                            
of Alaska  funding.  Three million  dollars had  been inadvertently                                                             
omitted  but  would appear  in  subsequent  copies  of the  bill  to                                                            
reflect the  recommendations of the  budget subcommittee.  The error                                                            
is shown in Section 1 on page 36, line 28 and 39.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:18:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal then  noted fiscal notes  for the pending SB 141,  relating                                                            
to the Public  Employees Retirement  System (PERS) and the  Teachers                                                            
Retirement  System  (TRS) were  included  in the  version  of HB  67                                                            
passed by the  House of Representatives,  but inadvertently  omitted                                                            
from  the  committee  substitute  before  the  Committee.  This  was                                                            
strictly an error made by the Legislative Finance Division.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:19:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  understood  that  all  funding for  PERS  and  TRS,                                                            
including the University portion, is included in SB 141.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:19:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal replied  that HB 66 and HB  67 include no funding  for PERS                                                            
and TRS expenses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:19:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Administration                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #1: This  amendment inserts  intent language to the  Legal and                                                            
Advocacy Services  Budget Request  Unit (BRU) on page 4,  line 22 of                                                            
the committee substitute to read as follows.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     It is  the intent of  the legislature  that Legal and  Advocacy                                                            
     Services   develop  cost   containment   measures  to   curtail                                                            
     expenditures  in  order  to avoid  the  need  for supplemental                                                             
     funding for FY 06  and report to the legislature by January 15,                                                            
     2006 on the success of these measures.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     During the past fifteen  years, OPA [Office of Public Advocacy]                                                            
     and   PD  [Public   Defenders   Agency]   typically   requested                                                            
     supplemental  funding to avoid operating budget  shortfalls. In                                                            
     some of those years,  these offices were knowingly short-funded                                                            
     with  the understanding  that a supplemental  request  would be                                                            
     supported by the legislature.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4  of the bill contains general direction  to eliminate                                                            
     supplemental  requests. Although this change  in policy applies                                                            
     to  all programs, this  amendment indicates  the legislature's                                                             
     specific  desire to limit FY  06 expenditures in the  Office of                                                            
     Public  Advocacy (OPA) and the  Public Defender (PD)  Agency to                                                            
     the appropriation in the operating bill.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  for  adoption  and  objected  to  offer  an                                                            
explanation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  told  of  the  struggles  of  the  legislature  in                                                            
addressing   continued   supplemental   appropriations   for   these                                                            
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:21:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN  #2: This  amendment  reduces $50,000  general  fund from  the                                                            
appropriation  to  the  Legal  and  Advocacy  Services  BRU,  Public                                                            
Defender  Agency   component  on  page  4,  line  24.  Accompanying                                                             
explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The subcommittee for  the Department of Administration accepted                                                            
     a transfer  of funds  from the Department  of Corrections,  but                                                            
     the  subcommittee  for the Department  of  Corrections did  not                                                            
     approve the  transfer. This amendment corrects  that imbalance.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green overviewed the explanatory statement.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:21:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #3:  This amendment  adds $6,800 PFD  Fund to the Centralized                                                             
Administrative  Services  BRU,  Office  of Administrative   Hearings                                                            
component  on page  2, lines  18 and  19.  Accompanying explanatory                                                             
language  reads,  "This  is  a  technical  amendment   correcting  a                                                            
negative fund  source associated with  the removal of PERS  funding.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  explained the amendment and noted  no objection was                                                            
voiced to the adoption of the amendment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was therefore ADOPTED.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:21:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Corrections                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COR  #1: This  amendment deletes  $379,600  general  funds from  the                                                            
Administration  and Support BRU, Inmate Transportation  component on                                                            
page 9,  line 9, and adds  $379,600 general  funds to the  Community                                                            
Jails  component  on  page  8,  line 33.  Accompanying  explanatory                                                             
language reads as follows.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment moves  a $379,600 reduction taken from Community                                                            
     Jails that  should have been taken from Inmate  Transportation.                                                            
     The  funding is within  the same appropriation  and the  agency                                                            
     could  make  the   necessary  adjustment  without  legislative                                                             
     approval.  This amendment reduces  the agency's administrative                                                             
     paperwork required to make the adjustment.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green overviewed the explanatory statement.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:22:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked which community jails would be affected.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green referred to COR #2 to explain.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Without further objection the amendment, COR #1 was ADOPTED.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:22:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COR  #2:  This  amendment   adds  $151,500  general   funds  to  the                                                            
Administration  and Support BRU, Community  Jails component  on page                                                            
8, line 33. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     After discussions  with the Department of Corrections, the City                                                            
     of Kotzebue has agreed  to sign the community jails contract at                                                            
     an increased rate  totaling $800,000 for the FY 06 budget year.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  spoke to a settlement  agreement underway  to reopen                                                            
the community  jail in the City of  Kotzebue. This funding  would be                                                            
used to satisfy the provisions of the agreement.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  removed  his  objection   and  the  amendment  was                                                            
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:23:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
EDU #1:  This amendment adds  $25,000 DEED  CIP funds to the  Alaska                                                            
Library and  Museums BRU,  Museum Operations  component on  page 11,                                                            
line 27. Accompanying  explanatory  language reads, "This  amendment                                                            
appropriates $25,000  to the Alaska State Museum for  acquisition of                                                            
Alaskan artifacts."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken moved for  adoption, objected  for an explanation,                                                             
and  told of  requests  from  museum representatives   for funds  to                                                            
purchase  certain artifacts  "as  a way  to set  aside some  Alaskan                                                            
treasures."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:24:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked if  funding  this  request in  the  operating                                                            
budget is appropriate.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken understood it was.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:24:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES   ARMSTRONG,   Staff   to   Co-Chair   Wilken,   shared   that                                                            
understanding.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and without further objection                                                            
the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:25:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEC #1:  This amendment  deletes $92,200  Oil & Hazardous  Substance                                                            
Release and  Response Fund  from the Spill  Prevention and  Response                                                            
BRU, Prevention  and Emergency Response  component on page  12, line                                                            
33.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
This amendment also adds  $242,200 Oil & Hazardous Substance Release                                                            
and  Response  Fund  to the  Department  of  Military  and  Veterans                                                            
Affairs,  Military   and  Veterans  Affairs  BRU,  Local   Emergency                                                            
Planning Committee component on page 26, lines 14 and 15.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  Oil  &  Hazardous  Substance  Release  and  Response  Fund                                                            
     (commonly  referred  to  as  the  "Response  Fund")  is  funded                                                            
     primarily  through  a nickel  surcharge per  taxable barrel  of                                                            
     oil.  Two  cents  goes  into  a  "Response  Account"  used  for                                                            
     emergency  uses. The other three cents goes into  a "Prevention                                                            
     Account" from which appropriations are made.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     By  statute  funding of  Local  Emergency  Planning  Committees                                                            
     (LEPCs)  is based on  3% of the balance  of the Response  Fund.                                                            
     For  FY  06 this  amount  equals  $57,800.  Actual FY  04  LEPC                                                            
     expenditures   were  $324,900;   FY  05  Management   Plan  was                                                            
     $300,000.  The $57,800 funding  based on the statutory  formula                                                            
     leaves   the  LEPCs   $242,200  short   of  expected   funding.                                                            
     Allocating  $57,800  among  19  LEPCs means  that  the  smaller                                                            
     communities  will  receive  so little  funding  that they  will                                                            
     cease  to exist. The largest  LEPCs (Anchorage, Fairbanks,  and                                                            
     Kenai) receive only $22,500 at the $300,000 funding level.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     To keep all 19 LEPCs functioning at an effective level,                                                                    
     funding of at least $300,000 is needed. This amendment                                                                     
     appropriates the necessary additional funding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Dyson   stated   that  the   subcommittee   inadvertently                                                             
recommended an inadequate  amount of funding for the Local Emergency                                                            
Planning  Committee (LEPC)  program.  These committees  are  charged                                                            
with planning  for homeland security  situations, as well  as fires,                                                            
biological threats,  floods and other emergency situations  in local                                                            
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:26:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Armstrong  explained  that  the  Department   of Environmental                                                             
Conservation budget subcommittee  closed out after the Department of                                                            
Military  and Veterans Affairs  budget subcommittee  closed.  It was                                                            
discovered that a direct  appropriation of $300,000 "470 funding" or                                                            
"SPAR  [Spill  Prevention  and  Response]   funding"  for  LECP  was                                                            
recommended;  however,  no  "mechanism"  within  the  Department  of                                                            
Environmental  Conservation  was available  to allow  this and  that                                                            
budget  subcommittee chose  to request  correction  before the  full                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:27:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken moved for  adoption of the  amendment and  objected                                                            
for discussion purposes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked if $157,800 has been added for this program.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong  stated that this amendment  would reflect  the intent                                                            
of the Department of Environmental  Conservation budget subcommittee                                                            
and  also  fully  fund the  LEPC  increment  in  the  Department  of                                                            
Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:28:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  removed  his  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:28:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked for  affirmation that  the LEPC program  would                                                            
receive $300,000.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong  affirmed, explaining  the actions recommended  by the                                                            
Department  of Environmental  Conservation  budget  subcommittee  in                                                            
conjunction with this amendment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Without further objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:29:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Health and Social Services                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
H&SS #1: This  amendment adds $110,000 Statutory Designated  Program                                                            
Receipts  (SDPR), as  funding for  two full time  positions,  to the                                                            
Public Assistance  BRU, Public Assistance  Field Services  component                                                            
on page  19,  lines 19  and 20.  Accompanying  explanatory  language                                                            
reads as follows.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This increment  will enable Alaska Native Medical  Center staff                                                            
     to  improve   processing  Medicaid  claims.   The  agency  will                                                            
     coordinate, implement  and evaluate a pilot project designed to                                                            
     assist in attaining  the agency's goal of reducing its reliance                                                            
     on state  general funds by maximizing  and expanding  interface                                                            
     for  health care  services for  Alaska Natives.  The two  staff                                                            
     included in the request  are a full time Eligibility Technician                                                            
     I, range 13 and a full time Administrative Clerk, range 8.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green offered a motion to adopt the amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:29:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GINGER BLAISDELL,  Staff to Co-Chair  Green, explained the  governor                                                            
submitted  this request after  the Department  of Health and  Social                                                            
Services budget  subcommittee had closed out, and  had therefore not                                                            
considered it.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:30:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
H&SS  #2: This  amendment  adds $79,500  general  funds and  $19,400                                                            
Mental Health  Trust Authority Authorized  Receipts (MHTAAR)  to the                                                            
Public  Health BRU,  Women, Children  and Family  Health  component.                                                            
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This  increment   will  maintain  the  Alaska  Birth   Registry                                                            
     statewide surveillance services to collect, analyze, and                                                                   
     produce information about the birth prevalence of congenital                                                               
     anomalies in Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green offered a motion to adopt the amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green remarked that  this amendment  reflects a "shift  in                                                            
funding sources."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Blasdell interjected that this amendment is "an increment".                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  informed that the  governor's office submitted  this                                                            
request   after   the  budget   subcommittee   had   completed   its                                                            
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:31:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
H&SS #3: This  amendment deletes $120,000 "GFM 1003"  funds and adds                                                            
$120,000 general  funds to the Children's  Services BRU,  Subsidized                                                            
Adoption   and  Guardianship   component  on   page  17,  line   33.                                                            
Accompanying  explanatory language  reads, "This fund source  change                                                            
is a technical  correction only. The  fund source should  be general                                                            
funds."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green offered a motion to adopt the amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  stated  this amendment  changes  the  funding  from                                                            
general funds match, to general funds.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:31:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
H&SS #4: This  amendment deletes $1,500,000  general funds  and adds                                                            
$1,500,000  Tobacco Use Education  & Cessation  Funds to the  Health                                                            
Care Services BRU, Medicaid  Services component on page 18, line 12.                                                            
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Many Medicaid dollars are spent for tobacco related illnesses.                                                             
     The use of tobacco tax funds are appropriately used for                                                                    
     Medicaid match.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     $1,500,000  Tobacco  Use,  Education  and Cessation  Funds  are                                                            
     available  due to the increased  cigarette tax deposits  to the                                                            
     Tobacco  Fund  based  on the  Department  of  Revenue's  Spring                                                            
     Forecast projections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     $562,100  is anticipated for  collections from January  1, 2005                                                            
     through  June 30, 2005 with an  increased revenue anticipation                                                             
     of  $2,685,800 for  FY 06; a  growth of slightly  more  than $2                                                            
     million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Spending  only  $1.5  million  of  the  anticipated  growth  in                                                            
     Tobacco  Tax  revenues will  allow  for fluctuation  in  actual                                                            
     revenues  during the first full  year tax collection  cycle. If                                                            
     the Tobacco  Use, Education and  Cessation Funds are  not fully                                                            
     expended  during FY 06,  the funds will  remain in the  tobacco                                                            
     account  and  are subject  to the  CBR  [Constitutional  Budget                                                            
     Reserve] sweep.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green offered a motion to adopt the amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  stated these funds  would be used to "backfill"  the                                                            
State's  Medicaid services.  The  Department could  utilize  general                                                            
funds  to leverage  other  funding,  which could  not  be done  with                                                            
Tobacco Use Education and Cessation funds.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  the  impact  on  tobacco  use  cessation  and                                                            
education programs with the loss of funds to this appropriation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:32:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Blasdell replied  that approximate $2.7 million  is projected to                                                            
carry forward  to the next year. This  funding is not garnered  from                                                            
the settlement with tobacco companies.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:33:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson clarified  that education and cessation programs would                                                            
not be affected.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Blasdell affirmed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:33:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
With no further objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:34:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
H&SS #5:  This amendment  adds $50,000 general  funds to the  Public                                                            
Health BRU, Certifications  and Licensing component on page 20, line                                                            
5. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This  amendment   provides  funding  for  regulation   of  non-                                                            
     federally  regulated  small drinking  water  systems (Class  C)                                                            
     that serve facilities  licensed by the Department of Health and                                                            
     Social Services  through 7 AAC 10, 50 and 75.  For an estimated                                                            
     150 systems  this would require one full-time  position and the                                                            
     position  costs  associated   with inspections   and  complaint                                                            
     investigation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Due  to budget  reductions,  the  Department  of Environmental                                                             
     Conservation   eliminated  regulation  of  all  Class  C  water                                                            
     systems.  A Class C system services  more than a single  family                                                            
     or duplex home but  less than 25 people per day. Although it is                                                            
     difficult to determine  accurately, Department of Environmental                                                            
     Conservation  estimates the number is as high  as 5,000 systems                                                            
     serving  more than 100,000 Alaskans.  This includes  child care                                                            
     homes,  adult  residential care  facilities,  restaurants,  gas                                                            
     stations, office buildings, DOT work camps etc.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  estimated 150  systems serve  adult  residential and  child                                                            
     care  facilities  licenses  by  the Department  of  Health  and                                                            
     Social  Services. These  populations  are generally  considered                                                            
     high   risk  and  regulation   of  their   Drinking  Water   is                                                            
     recommended.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Regulation  would  include registration  of the  system by  the                                                            
     Department  of Environmental  Conservation, yearly testing  for                                                            
     total  coli for bacteria and  nitrates, inspections,  complaint                                                            
     investigation,   and  construction   design  by  a   registered                                                            
      engineer if the drinking water source is surface water.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  offered  a  motion  to  adopt  the  amendment  and                                                            
objected to provide an explanation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:34:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong  reminded that the previous  session, the legislature                                                             
directed the  Department of Environmental  Conservation to  "get out                                                            
of the water  quality business". Budget  subcommittees subsequently                                                             
recommended  funding reductions.  However,  the commissioner  of the                                                            
Department  of Health and Social Services  notified Co-Chair  Wilken                                                            
that some facilities require this regulation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:35:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:35:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LWD #1: This amendment  deletes $203,500 Inter-agency (I/A) Receipts                                                            
from  the  Workforce   Development  BRU,  Employment   and  Training                                                            
Services  component  on  page  23, lines  24  and  25. Accompanying                                                             
explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This decrement  of $203,500 will  realign budget authorization                                                             
     with anticipated  expenditures related to the  Senior Community                                                            
     Services Employment  Program (SCEP) from the State Training and                                                            
     Employment Program (STEP) in Business Services allocation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde offered a motion to adopt the amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  explained this is a  technical amendment relating  to                                                            
"unneeded" inter-agency receipts.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:36:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Law                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
LAW  #1: This  amendment  deletes  $50,000  general funds  from  the                                                            
Criminal Division  BRU, Third Judicial District Anchorage  component                                                            
on page 25, lines  4 and 5. Accompanying explanatory  language reads                                                            
as follows.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The subcommittee for  the Department of Law accepted a transfer                                                            
     of  funds   from  the  Department   of  Corrections,   but  the                                                            
     subcommittee for the  Department of Corrections did not approve                                                            
     the transfer. This amendment corrects that imbalance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green explained  this amendment is  similar to a  previous                                                            
amendment relating to different departments.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:36:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
M&VA #1:  This amendment  adds  $150,000 Oil  & Hazardous  Substance                                                            
Release  and Response  Funds to  the Military  and Veterans  Affairs                                                            
BRU, Local Emergency Planning  Committee component on page 26, lines                                                            
14 and 15. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The  Oil  &  Hazardous  Substance  Release  and  Response  Fund                                                            
     (commonly  referred  to  as  the  "Response  Fund")  is  funded                                                            
     primarily  through  a nickel  surcharge per  taxable barrel  of                                                            
     oil.  Two  cents  goes  into  a  "Response  Account"  used  for                                                            
     emergency  uses. The other three cents goes into  a "Prevention                                                            
     Account" from which appropriations are made.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     By  statute  funding of  Local  Emergency  Planning  Committees                                                            
     (LEPCs)  is based on  3% of the balance  of the Response  Fund.                                                            
     For  FY  06 this  amount  equals  $57,800.  Actual FY  04  LEPC                                                            
     expenditures   were  $324,900;   FY  05  Management   Plan  was                                                            
     $300,000.  The $57,800 funding  based on the statutory  formula                                                            
     leaves   the  LEPCs   $242,200  short   of  expected   funding.                                                            
     Allocating  $57,800  among  19  LEPCs means  that  the  smaller                                                            
     communities  will  receive  so little  funding  that they  will                                                            
     cease  to exist. The largest  LEPCs (Anchorage, Fairbanks,  and                                                            
     Kenai) receive only $22,500 at the $300,000 funding level.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     This  amendment  increases   funding  to  $207,800  as  minimum                                                            
     funding to keep all 19 LEPCs functioning.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  announced this amendment  would be NOT OFFERED  based                                                            
on actions taken on DEC #1.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:37:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DNR #1: This amendment  deletes $315,600 Agricultural Revolving Loan                                                            
Funds  and   inserts  $315,600   general   funds  to  the   Resource                                                            
Development  BRU, Agricultural  Development  component  on page  28,                                                            
line 9. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Reverse  the fund  source  change that  increases Agricultural                                                             
     Revolving  Loan Fund  spending and reduces  general funds.  The                                                            
     balance of  the Agricultural RLF is only sufficient  to support                                                            
     maintenance  level operations  for 2-3 more years and  spending                                                            
     the   additional   Agricultural   RLF  would   accelerate   the                                                            
     liquidation of the balance of the fund.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  described  the  Agricultural  Revolving  Loan  Fund                                                            
annually  provides loans and  in some years,  has been used  to fund                                                            
operations of  the Division of Agriculture. General  funds have been                                                            
utilized in the  previous two years to fund the Division  and should                                                            
continue. The  forecasted expiration of the loan fund  is FY 09 with                                                            
a balance  of $200,000. It  is not the purpose  of the Committee  to                                                            
"tap out that  fund", as it does not  have the advantage  of the CBR                                                            
to receive additional deposits.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:38:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  recommended against providing a reduction  in general                                                            
funds  to  the Division   to offset  the  funds  allocated  in  this                                                            
amendment.  He qualified  that  he supported  the  concept of  users                                                            
paying the costs of supporting agencies.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:38:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:39:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DPS #1: This  amendment inserts intent  language into the  Statewide                                                            
Support BRU,  Alaska Criminal Records  and Identification  component                                                            
on page 31, line 11 to read as follows.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  the intent  of  the  legislature  that  the  additional                                                            
     funding  of  $41,500 general  funds  provided  to offset  under                                                            
     funding  of  the  Alaska  Concealed  Handgun  Program  and  Sex                                                            
     Offender Registry  be utilized exclusively for the Sex Offender                                                            
     Registry Program.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     It  is the intent  of the  legislature that  the Department  of                                                            
     Public  Safety  implement  alternative   solutions  for  making                                                            
     operation  of  the  Alaska  Concealed   Handgun  Program  self-                                                            
     sustaining.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson surmised  that the budget subcommittee "took the right                                                            
action"  in  the  intent  language  it  recommended;   however,  the                                                            
language was  incorrect. He asked  Mr. Armstrong to suggest  correct                                                            
verbiage.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong  was unsure of the sponsor's  intent. He requested  an                                                            
opportunity to redraft the intent language.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:40:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  removed his motion to adopt the amendment  and it was                                                            
HELD until later in the meeting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:40:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DPS  #2: This  amendment deletes  $125,000  general  funds from  the                                                            
Council on  Domestic Violence  and Sexual  Assault BRU, Victims  for                                                            
Justice  component  on  page  30,  lines  18  and  19. Accompanying                                                             
explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     In SLA  06, the Victims  for Justice  advocated strongly  to be                                                            
     moved to  the Department of Law. The legislature  approved this                                                            
     transfer  at  the request  of  the Victims  for  Justice.  This                                                            
     increment  will not resolve the  discourse between the  Victims                                                            
     for  Justice and  the CDVSA  that promulgated  the request  for                                                            
     their move to the Department of Law two years ago.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  explained that this component is no  longer included                                                            
in  the  Department  of Public  Safety  budget.  Confusion  over  an                                                            
outdated  reference resulted  in the budget  subcommittee  including                                                            
this in its recommendations.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:41:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DPS #3:  This amendment adds  $803,500 general  funds to the  Alaska                                                            
State Troopers  BRU, Alaska State  Trooper Detachments component  on                                                            
page 29, lines  27 and 28. Accompanying  explanatory language  reads                                                            
as follows.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska State  Troopers provide  primary  public safety  to                                                            
     most of the geographic  areas of the state, and limited service                                                            
     in all  areas of the  state including  those served by  a local                                                            
     law  enforcement entity.  In the department's  FY 06  Operating                                                            
     Budget Request the  department requested $803,500 general funds                                                            
     to fund  five new  troopers to improve  public safety  services                                                            
     and  consistent  traffic enforcement  in areas  along  Alaska's                                                            
     rural road system and in Southeast Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The Senate  Finance Subcommittee does not deny  that additional                                                            
     troopers  are  needed. However,  because  of a  seemingly  high                                                            
     vacancy   rate,  the   subcommittee   questioned  whether   the                                                            
     department  would be able  to fill the  positions if they  were                                                            
     approved.  The subcommittee conditionally  denied the  request,                                                            
     offering  the department and  opportunity to demonstrate  their                                                            
     ability to fill the requested positions.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     This  amendment  is offered  contingent  on the  belief by  the                                                            
     Senate Finance  Committee that the department  has demonstrated                                                            
     such ability.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson told  of the significant  discussions  in the  budget                                                            
subcommittee   on  this  matter.  The  subcommittee   supported  the                                                            
additional Trooper  positions and requested the Department  to speak                                                            
to the full Committee on  its ability to fill those positions within                                                            
the next fiscal year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:42:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SPENCER,   Director,  Division   of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of Public Safety,  testified that  the Department  could                                                            
fill the proposed  five new positions,  dependant upon recruitment.                                                             
Other  funding within  the Department  would  assist in recruitment                                                             
efforts.  In January 2004  the Department  had a  net vacancy  of 31                                                            
Trooper  positions,  including  those  attending  the  Alaska  State                                                            
Trooper Academy,  field training officers and other  "double filled"                                                            
positions.  Currently, by comparison,  28 net positions are  vacant.                                                            
This is after filling 20  vacant positions. The Department is making                                                            
progress  and would  continue to do  so. If  funded, the  Department                                                            
would be able to fill the five additional positions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:43:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked the number of  trainees attending the  Academy.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:43:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  answered  12  students  are  currently  attending  the                                                            
Academy.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson asked if the students are accounted as employees.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer affirmed they are.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:44:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  calculated that without the students,  the Department                                                            
has 40 vacancies.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer affirmed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson asked  if any of  those students  failed to  complete                                                            
their training, if the net vacancy rate would increase.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer affirmed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked the graduation  date for the current  students.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  replied the  graduates would be  "on the road"  for the                                                            
July 4th weekend in the field training officer program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked the date the next class begins  at the academy.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer answered the next class begins in August.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:44:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked if all  28 vacant positions  are sworn  officer                                                            
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer affirmed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:44:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked if the intent is to graduate  28 Troopers in FY                                                            
05 and that the fall 2005 class would graduate 33 Troopers.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer explained  the academy graduates three  classes per year                                                            
with  a capacity  of 40 students.  He  was unsure  whether the  fall                                                            
class would include all 33 students.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:45:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson had questioned  whether the  Department would  expend                                                            
the total  amount of funding  included in  this amendment given  the                                                            
existing vacancies. In  consulting Mr. Spencer and the commissioner,                                                            
he concluded that because  the positions are not filled, significant                                                            
overtime pay  and transportation of  Troopers to cover larger  areas                                                            
is expended.  These  expenses  "eat up"  the funding  that would  be                                                            
otherwise  utilized  for the  salaries  of  the new  positions.  The                                                            
Department  asserts  that  the  total amount  of  funding  would  be                                                            
required, despite the 33 vacancies.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:46:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  allowed  that  Senator Dyson's  statement  is  a  fair                                                            
assessment. Once a student  is enrolled at the Trooper academy, they                                                            
are paid a salary from  the Alaska State Trooper Detachments budget.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:46:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  understood   the Department   has  budgeted  for  15                                                            
vacancies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:46:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  replied that  the  vacancy  factor  is such  that  the                                                            
Department  must budget  for 15  vacant positions  statewide at  any                                                            
given time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:47:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson remarked  that on the basis of this vacancy factor and                                                            
the  aforementioned  increased costs  incurred  as a  result of  the                                                            
vacant positions,  this amendment should be adopted  and the funding                                                            
provided.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:47:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked how this would  benefit delivery of  services                                                            
to rural communities, specifically  the Department's identified need                                                            
for additional Village  Public Safety Officers (VPSO). The VPSOs are                                                            
the "first line of defense  in public safety" in many rural areas of                                                            
the State.  He  asked how  the additional  five  positions would  be                                                            
related with the VPSO program.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:47:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded  that the proposed new positions  would not be                                                            
directly  charged with overseeing  VPSO  positions. These  positions                                                            
would  be  stationed  in  Fairbanks   and  along  the  road  system.                                                            
Additional  VPSOs  are  needed  and increased   recruitment  efforts                                                            
include recruiting for those positions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:48:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  if the  need for  the proposed  new  Trooper                                                            
positions  is a higher priority  than the  need for additional  VPSO                                                            
positions.  A number  of VPSO positions  across  rural areas  of the                                                            
State have been eliminated over the past 15 years.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:49:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer   deferred   the  prioritization   of   needs  to   the                                                            
commissioner.   Notwithstanding,   the  Department  has   more  than                                                            
adequate funding  to fund all vacant  VPSO positions. This  issue is                                                            
recruitment  for  those positions,  which  is  one impetus  for  the                                                            
Department's increased recruitment efforts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:50:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green clarified  the budget contains  no funding  shortage                                                            
for filling the vacant  VPSO positions. She asked the number of VPSO                                                            
positions that funding would provide for.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:51:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer replied that  a portion of the appropriation would lapse                                                            
due to the number  of vacancies that could not be  filled before the                                                            
conclusion of the current fiscal year.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:51:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if funding  is adequate  for the VPSO  program,                                                            
why  efforts  are  underway  to  consolidate  rather  than  continue                                                            
operations from regional centers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:51:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained  the emphasis  on  containing administrative                                                             
costs to allow more funding for direct services.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:51:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson argued  that  the program  already  has excess  funds                                                            
under the current practices.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:51:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  countered  that  the existence  of excess  funds is  no                                                            
justification for higher administrative costs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson redirected  his questioning to the 31 Trooper position                                                            
vacancies of one  year ago compared to the 28 vacancies  of present.                                                            
He  asked if  the  funding  allocated  for salaries  of  the  vacant                                                            
positions is  utilized solely for  the overtime and travel  expenses                                                            
of existing Trooper positions covering a larger area.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:52:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer answered  these  costs are  a contributing  factor.  He                                                            
informed  that the amount  necessary to fund  every position  is not                                                            
appropriated due to the  assumption that some vacancies would always                                                            
occur. In  addition, a variety  of one-time  costs are incurred  for                                                            
new  employees   including   training,  vehicles,   ammunition   and                                                            
uniforms. These  expenses are significant. Also fuel  costs incurred                                                            
to date for the  current fiscal year is $460,000 over  the projected                                                            
amount. The Department  did not request supplemental funding for the                                                            
current  fiscal year  and instead  utilized the  unexpended  funding                                                            
allocated  to the  yet unfilled  positions to  offset the  increased                                                            
expenses.  If all positions  were filled, it  would be difficult  to                                                            
operate the Division with the existing funding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:54:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  understood that Troopers are paid a  higher wage when                                                            
flying an aircraft for work-related activities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:54:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer   affirmed   this  arrangement   is  included   in  the                                                            
arbitration with the State and the Troopers' bargaining unit.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:54:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  relayed that  several VPSOs  are pilots and  question                                                            
the extra pay given to Troopers.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:55:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer   was  unsure   of  the  licensing   requirements   for                                                            
Department-related flights.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:55:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  noted that  a  commercial  license is  required  for                                                            
pilots flying for a business.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:55:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  directed  the  Department  to  provide  additional                                                            
information about this matter to Senator Olson.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  removed  his  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment and it was ADOPTED without further objection.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:55:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DPS  #4:  This  amendment  adds  $2,800  CIP  [capital  improvement                                                             
projects]  Receipts  to  the  Alaska  State   Troopers  BRU,  Marine                                                            
Enforcement  component. Accompanying  explanatory language  reads as                                                            
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     This is a technical amendment correcting a negative fund                                                                   
     source associated with removal of PERS [Public Employees                                                                   
     Retirement System] funding.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  for  adoption   and  read  the explanatory                                                             
statement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:56:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DOT #1:  This amendment  deletes $1,985,600  general funds  from the                                                            
Alaska  Marine   Highway  System   BRU,  Marine  Vessel   Operations                                                            
component  on page 36,  line 16. Accompanying  explanatory  language                                                            
reads as follows.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  reduction of general  funds in  this component brings  the                                                            
     anticipated  Alaska Marine Highway  System operations  costs in                                                            
     line with the House  appropriation level. Additional funds will                                                            
     be made  available through SB  141 for the PERS costs  for AMHS                                                            
     employees and will bring the total funding for this component                                                              
     to the appropriate level.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green explained that this amendment reflects the intent                                                                
that funding for PERS expenses would be included in SB 141.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman objected and spoke against "balancing our budget on                                                             
the back of SB 141". This is not the "right thing to do."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator Dyson, Senator Stedman, Co-Chair Green and Co-                                                                
Chair Wilken                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Senator Hoffman and Senator Olson                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT: Senator Bunde                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The motion PASSED (4-2-1)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:57:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Court System                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CRT #1: This amendment deletes 2.0 permanent full time positions                                                                
from the Judicial Council BRU and component on page 38, line 5.                                                                 
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  decrement  to  the  Judicial  Council  stated:   "Personal                                                            
     services reduction  to staff" but did not include the reduction                                                            
     of one  Research Analyst  and one Staff  Attorney as stated  in                                                            
     the intent language.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green explained that this amendment further clarifies the                                                              
intent language included in the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:58:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Language Section                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LANG #1: This amendment  deletes Section 15 of the bill, relating to                                                            
the  Education  Loan  Program,  on  page  57,  lines  1  through  5.                                                            
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     A change  regarding use of student  loan origination  fees took                                                            
     effect on  June 17, 2004. CS SB 227 (FIN) Section  6 revised AS                                                            
     14.43.120(u)  to  remove a  "subject to  appropriation"  clause                                                            
     before fees could  be used by the ASLC. According to the Alaska                                                            
     Commission  on Postsecondary Education Director  Diane Barrans,                                                            
     Section 15 is no longer required.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved for adoption and objected for explanation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:58:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong  noted this  amendment was  proposed by the  Murkowski                                                            
Administration   and  supported  by  the  Division  of  Legislative                                                             
Finance, as language that is no longer required.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:58:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked if the language is no longer  required because                                                            
an origination fee would not be assessed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong deferred to Mr. Teal.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
It was determined unnecessary to pursue the questioning.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:59:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Without further objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:59:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CCED  #1:   This  amendment   adds  $250,000   Business  License   &                                                            
Corporation  Filing  Fees and  Taxes funds  to the  Qualified  Trade                                                            
Association Contract  BRU and component on page 5,  lines 27 through                                                            
33. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment adds $250,000 of Business License & Corporation                                                             
     Filing Fees and Taxes to the Senate Finance Subcommittee's                                                                 
     general fund increment of $250,000.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman moved for adoption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman stated that  this additional  funding would  enable                                                            
the  Department  to  increase  marketing   efforts.  He  noted  that                                                            
matching funds  from industry would be received, which  would double                                                            
the State contribution.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:59:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 10:00:18 AM/10:05:33 AM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  announced  the  conclusion   of  consideration  of                                                            
amendments  to HB  67  until later  in  the meeting.  The  following                                                            
amendments are specifically  to HB 66, mental health appropriations.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:06:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mental Health                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MH  #1: This  amendment  to  the Department   of Health  and  Social                                                            
Services appropriations  deletes $674,200  Bond Funds (Amerada  Hess                                                            
Bond Proceeds)  and adds  $674,200 General  Fund MH [mental  health]                                                            
funds  to the  Department  of  Health and  Social  Services,  Alaska                                                            
Psychiatric  Institute Automation  Project  (ED [election  district]                                                            
17-32) component on page 11, lines 12 and 13.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
This  amendment   also  deletes  $2,500,000  Bond   Funds  and  adds                                                            
$2,500,000  Alcohol Fund  1180 to  the Crisis  Treatment Facility  -                                                            
Phase 2 (ED 17-32) component on lines 17 through 19.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
This amendment  also deletes $150,000  Bond Funds and adds  $150,000                                                            
General Fund MH funds to  the Deferred Maintenance and Accessibility                                                            
Improvements (ED 99) component on lines 20 through 22.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  announced that amendments  would be considered  and                                                            
if  adopted,  incorporated  into  a  new  committee  substitute  for                                                            
consideration later in the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:06:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Blasdell  explained this  amendment replaces  Amerada Hess  Bond                                                            
Proceeds  funding  for  three projects  with  general  fund/  mental                                                            
health funds for  two and alcohol funds for the third.  Amerada Hess                                                            
is  the  common  reference  to  funds  received  as a  result  of  a                                                            
settlement over royalties paid on oil development in Alaska.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:06:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Without  objection the  amendment  was ADOPTED.  [Co-Chair  Wilken's                                                            
objection  was not formally  withdrawn, however  it was the  implied                                                            
intent of the Committee.]                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:07:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken directed  the Division  of Legislative  Finance  to                                                            
draft  a committee  substitute  for  HB  66 for  adoption  when  the                                                            
Committee resumed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 10:07:36 AM/5:19:11 PM                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The following amendments  are to the committee substitute for HB 67.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:20:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Fish and Game                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
F&G #1: This amendment  adds $650,000 general funds  to the Wildlife                                                            
Conservation  BRU and component  on page  14, line 10. Accompanying                                                             
explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     These funds  will enable the Division of Wildlife  Conservation                                                            
     to  initiate additional  field studies  in support of  predator                                                            
     control programs  authorized by the Alaska Board  of Game. Work                                                            
     will include updated  inventories of big game predator and prey                                                            
     species  within current  or prospective  predator control  plan                                                            
     areas.  Prey mortality  studies or  other specialized  research                                                            
     may  be   implemented  as  necessary   to  clarify   management                                                            
     challenges  in areas where prey species are depleted.  Adequate                                                            
     involvement by division  staff in coordination and direction of                                                            
     predator  management programs will also be supported.  In other                                                            
     to  be  successful,  such studies  will  require  funding  over                                                            
     multiple years.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     These  funds  will  also  allow  augmentation   of  survey  and                                                            
     inventory  projects  that  have  been reduced  in  response  to                                                            
     current   funding  shortages.   These   surveys  will   provide                                                            
     information  that will  help the division  advise the  Board of                                                            
     Game on  appropriate hunting/trapping  regulations,  which will                                                            
     allow maximum harvest opportunity for the public.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde read the second paragraph of the explanatory                                                                      
statement into the record.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken offered a motion to amendment the amendment to                                                                  
reduce the appropriation amount from $650,000 to $400,000.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was AMENDED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Without further objection to the adoption of the amended amendment                                                              
it was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:21:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Public Safety (cont.)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DPS #1: This amendment inserts intent language into the Statewide                                                               
Support BRU, Alaska Criminal Records and Identification component                                                               
on page 31, line 11 to read as follows.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  the intent  of  the  legislature  that  the  additional                                                            
     funding  of  $41,500 general  funds  provided  to offset  under                                                            
     funding  of  the  Alaska  Concealed  Handgun  Program  and  Sex                                                            
     Offender Registry  be utilized exclusively for the Sex Offender                                                            
     Registry Program.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     It  is the intent  of the  legislature that  the Department  of                                                            
     Public  Safety  implement  alternative   solutions  for  making                                                            
     operation  of  the  Alaska  Concealed   Handgun  Program  self-                                                            
     sustaining.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
A motion to adopt this amendment was offered then withdrawn earlier                                                             
in the meeting.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong explained  this amendment contains two separate intent                                                            
language  topics   that  address  separate  components   within  the                                                            
Department budget.  If adopted, the Division of Legislative  Finance                                                            
would make the appropriate corresponding changes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 5:22:37 PM / 5:23:14 PM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  read the intent language of the first  paragraph into                                                            
the record.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:23:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  understood that revenues were generated  through the                                                            
sale  and renewal  of permits  and asked  if fees  were assessed  on                                                            
collection of the fingerprints required to obtain the permits.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:24:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded  that fees were not collected  by the State on                                                            
the fingerprinting process.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green she asked  why an appropriation  of $41,500  general                                                            
funds is necessary for this program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  replied that the budget  subcommittee recommended  this                                                            
funding for the Sex Offender  Registry Program, which is included in                                                            
the same budgetary  unit as the Concealed  Handgun Program,  as well                                                            
as licensure for security guards.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:25:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked why this intent  language was not included  in                                                            
the budget subcommittee's recommendation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  understood  this language reflects  the subcommittee's                                                             
intent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:25:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  informed that the passage  of legislature  during the                                                            
prior session eliminated  the necessity for handgun permits for most                                                            
areas  of  the  State.   The  number  of  applicants   has  declined                                                            
subsequently,  as those who sought  a permit applied soon  after the                                                            
program was  implemented and because  the date of renewal  for these                                                            
issuances  has not yet  been reached. The  Department had  requested                                                            
$71,000  to operate  the program  and  the subcommittee  decided  to                                                            
recommend  against  the  full  amount.  However,   the subcommittee                                                             
intended  that  the Sex  Offender  Registry  program  be  adequately                                                            
addressed.  The concealed  handgun permit  process would be  reviews                                                            
and the fees likely  increased to make the program  self-sufficient.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:26:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  the consequences  if this  amendment were  not                                                            
adopted and  the $41,500 for the Sex  Offender Registry program  not                                                            
provided.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:27:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded  that the Sex Offender Registry  program would                                                            
continue, but  funds for this purpose  would be diverted  from other                                                            
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:27:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  then read the language  of the second paragraph  into                                                            
the record.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:27:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Language Section (cont.)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LANG #2:  This amendment  deletes the language  of Section  19. FUND                                                            
TRANSFERS.  (k) on  page  59, lines  4 through  7,  and inserts  new                                                            
language to read as follows.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          (k) the sum of $3,569,200 is appropriated to the election                                                             
     fund required by the federal Help America Vote Act from the                                                                
     following sources in the amount stated:                                                                                    
          General fund match                        $  469,200                                                                  
          Federal receipts                           3,100,000                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment will  allow the Division of Elections to receive                                                            
     a second federal Department  of Health and Human Services grant                                                            
     to help  improve polling place  access and voter participation                                                             
     from voters with a full range of disabilities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  for  adoption  and  objected  to  read  the                                                            
explanatory statement into the record.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without objection.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:28:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of  Administration and Department of Corrections  (cont.)                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN  #4:  This  amendment  deletes  $6,800   PFD  [Permanent  Fund                                                            
Dividend] Fund  and adds $6,800 CSSD Admin funds to  the Centralized                                                            
Administrative  Services  BRU,  Office  of Administrative   Hearings                                                            
component  on page  2, lines  18 and  19.  Accompanying explanatory                                                             
language reads as follows.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This is  a technical amendment  correcting a fund source  error                                                            
     used in amendment ADMIN #3.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This amendment  also deletes $100 general funds from  the Department                                                            
of  Corrections,  Administration  and  Support  BRU, Office  of  the                                                            
Commissioner component  on page 8, line 14. Accompanying explanatory                                                            
language  reads, "This corrects  an imbalance  in transfers  between                                                            
agencies."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Additional accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Note: The amendment  for the Mental Health bill (MH #1) cited a                                                            
     fund  code  number (1003)  that  differs  from the  cited  fund                                                            
     source  name (Gen  Fund MH).  Legislative  Finance changed  the                                                            
      fund code to 1037 to match the Gen Fund MH fund source.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved for  adoption and overviewed the components of                                                            
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:28:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Public Safety (cont.)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DPS #5: This amendment  inserts intent language to  the Alaska State                                                            
Troopers  BRU, Alaska State  Troopers Detachment  component  on page                                                            
29, lines 27 and 28 to read as follows.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     It  is the intent  of the  Legislature that  the Department  of                                                            
     Public  Safety   benefit  from  enhanced  trooper  recruitment                                                             
     efforts  by reducing trooper  overtime, travel, and  extraneous                                                            
     costs associated  with a reduced work force.  The Department of                                                            
     Public Safety  may need to prepare for increased  enrollment or                                                            
     offer  additional trooper training  academies in order  to fill                                                            
     all State Trooper positions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The   Department  of   Public  Safety   shall  report   to  the                                                            
     Legislature  by February 15,  2006 on the outcomes of  enhanced                                                            
     trooper  recruitment efforts,  decreased trooper overtime,  and                                                            
     reducing vacant positions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  shared that this amendment sponsored  jointly by he                                                            
and Senator  Dyson is a  result of the earlier  discussions.  It was                                                            
determined  to be beneficial that  the legislature receive  a report                                                            
on the progress made in filling the vacant Trooper positions.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved for  adoption  and objected  for  discussion                                                            
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:29:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  the relation  between this  amendment and  the                                                            
provisions adopted in DPS #3.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:30:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  reminded of the provisions of the previously  adopted                                                            
DPS  #3, which  provides funding  for  five new  Trooper  positions.                                                            
Amendment DPS  #5 emphasized the need  to reduce overtime,  transfer                                                            
and  transportation  expenses incurred  as  a result  of the  vacant                                                            
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:30:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Health and Social Services (cont.)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
H&SS  #6:  This  amendment  adds  $596,000   general  funds  to  the                                                            
Behavioral Health  BRU, AK Fetal Alcohol Syndrome  Program component                                                            
on page 17, lines  3 and 4. Accompanying explanatory  language reads                                                            
as follows.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     This funding will  continue the Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder                                                            
     Diagnostic  Services program  in Alaska. The five year  federal                                                            
     grant  is ending necessitating  the state to fund this  program                                                            
     if it is to continue.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  explained that this program and its  services did not                                                            
exist six  or seven  years ago.  Thanks to US  Senator Ted  Stevens,                                                            
Alaska now has one of the  better programs in diagnostic, prevention                                                            
and treatment  services. The number  of incidences of fetal  alcohol                                                            
syndrome is a "horrendous  problem". The Department has continued to                                                            
transfer  funding for  this program  and he was  concerned that  the                                                            
program  does not expire  due to lack  of funding.  He asked  if any                                                            
funding could be made available for this program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:32:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  noted that over $159 million is appropriated  to the                                                            
Behavioral Health  BRU, a portion of which is allocated  for alcohol                                                            
and  substance  abuse  treatment  programs.    Over  $6  million  is                                                            
specifically allocated to the fetal alcohol syndrome program.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asserted  that State funding would not be utilized to                                                            
"backfill"  any  reductions   of federal   funding,  nor  would  new                                                            
programs be created.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:33:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  gave the Alaska Fetal  Alcohol Syndrome  program as                                                            
an example of  a program receiving less federal funding  after a set                                                            
five-year period with the  legislature asked to supplement the short                                                            
fall.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:33:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson surmised  that the  Committee  is therefore  choosing                                                            
against providing State funding in these situations.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:33:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken affirmed and noted other funding sources.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:34:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  requested  the  Department   of  Health  and  Social                                                            
Services  speak  to the  consequences  of  the reduced  funding  and                                                            
whether the program would be continued in some form.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:34:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  BAKER,  Budget Chief,  Division  of  Finance  and  Management                                                            
Services, Department  of Health and Social Services,  testified that                                                            
she could not  answer how the Department would reprioritize  the use                                                            
of  the  remaining  funds of  the  federal  fetal  alcohol  syndrome                                                            
grants. She  agreed with Co-Chair  Green to the significant  funding                                                            
appropriated  to the  Behavioral Health  BRU and  that some  funding                                                            
remains  for this  program.  However, the  funds  requested in  this                                                            
amendment  are  intended  to  "restore"  a portion  of  the  funding                                                            
formally received from the federal government.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:35:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked the amount of grant funding remaining  for this                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:35:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker affirmed the amount is $6,328,400.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:35:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson understood that money had already been expended.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:35:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green   reminded  that   the  intent  language   for  this                                                            
Department  reflects the direction  that a plan would be  created to                                                            
coordinate  efforts  of  the  Department.  This  new  plan  has  the                                                            
potential, if it includes  the fetal alcohol syndrome program, up to                                                            
$2 million could  be available through the Temporary  Assistance for                                                            
Needy Families (TANF) bonuses.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:36:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker  noted that  the budget subcommittee  identified  $500,000                                                            
through the TANF  federal funding source that could  be utilized for                                                            
the fetal  alcohol  syndrome program.  This amendment  represents  a                                                            
general fund  request to  fully offset the  federal funds no  longer                                                            
appropriated for the program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:36:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  WITHDREW his  motion to adopt  this amendment  and it                                                            
was NOT OFFERED again.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:36:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
H&SS #7: This  amendment adds a new "Governor's Advisory  Council on                                                            
Faith Based and  Community Initiatives" component  within the Boards                                                            
and Commissions  BRU on page 22, line  10 and appropriates  $315,000                                                            
general  funds  and $105,000  I/A  Receipts  to the  new  component.                                                            
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Description:  Advisory  Council  on Faith-Based  and  Community                                                            
     Initiatives                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This  amendment will  fund the Governor's  Advisory Council  on                                                            
     Faith-Based and Community  Initiatives and the Office of Faith-                                                            
     Based  and  Community  Initiatives.  The  council  advises  the                                                            
     Governor   on   policies   and  practices   to   increase   the                                                            
     contributions  of faith-based  and community  organizations  to                                                            
     meet the workforce  and health and social services needs of the                                                            
     people  of Alaska. The council  is supported by a three  person                                                            
     staff, which the requested funds will support.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The interagency receipts  funding for this amendment comes from                                                            
     TANF as  part of the FFY 03 High  Performance Bonus  awarded to                                                            
     the State in the Division of Public Assistance.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  moved for adoption, noting this amendment  is similar                                                            
to the previous amendment.  He requested Co-Chair Green explain this                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:37:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green explained  that the Council was initially established                                                            
within  the Office  of  the Lieutenant  Governor  with  a budget  of                                                            
$68,000 and was  performing well and receiving measurable  community                                                            
support.  She was therefore  surprised that  the staff position  had                                                            
been eliminated through  a veto and that a FY 05 supplemental budget                                                            
request of  $125,000 was submitted.  This funding was requested  for                                                            
new staff, office  equipment and other expenses. She  predicted that                                                            
future budget  requests would continue  to increase given  the FY 06                                                            
budget request  is larger than the  FY 05 request. She did  not view                                                            
this program  as a growth  industry and asserted  that it should  be                                                            
operated with volunteers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:38:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  understood  the Council  was  transferred  from  the                                                            
Office of the Lieutenant Governor to the Office of the Governor.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:39:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green clarified  the Governor assigned  the Department  of                                                            
Health and Social Services to oversee the Council.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:39:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked the amount of  funding remaining for  operating                                                            
the coordination functions of the Council.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:39:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  replied that no money remains for  this program and                                                            
that the funds requested in this amendment is "new money".                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:39:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker affirmed  that the current version of the  FY 06 operating                                                            
budget legislation  contains no funding for this program.  She noted                                                            
the Department  has a FY 05 supplemental  budget request  pending to                                                            
refund  other State  agencies  that have  contributed  to the  basic                                                            
resources for the current  fiscal year. This amendment would provide                                                            
funding for FY 06 to continue the program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:40:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  expressed his  quandary in  desiring this program  to                                                            
continue. He clarified  that the program had been  allocated $68,000                                                            
for  FY  05  then  the  Governor  transferred  the  program  to  the                                                            
Department.  The requested  supplemental  funding  would only  cover                                                            
costs already  incurred, and  no funding  would be appropriated  for                                                            
the continued coordination of these services.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green explained  that the $68,000 appropriated for FY 05 by                                                            
the legislature  to fund  the coordinator  position was vetoed  from                                                            
the  operating  budget  legislation.  Four  State  departments  were                                                            
directed  provide  $40,000  each for  the  program, which  would  be                                                            
located within  the Department  of Health  and Social Services.  The                                                            
Department of Health and  Social Services announced that the $40,000                                                            
it contributed  would not be charged-back,  i.e. a refund  would not                                                            
be requested; although,  a supplemental budget request was submitted                                                            
to  reimburse  the  other  three  departments.   The  Committee  has                                                            
provided this funding.  However, a request of $315,000 was submitted                                                            
for FY 06. Continuing  to appropriate this level of  funding for the                                                            
program was not her intention when it was founded.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:41:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  asked  if  any funds  would  be  available  for  the                                                            
coordinator position if this amendment were not adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:42:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green understood  that  funding  could be  made  available                                                            
within the  Office of the Governor  or the Office of the  Lieutenant                                                            
Governor budgets for this position.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  departed  from  discussion  on  this  amendment  to                                                            
comment on  the previous  amendment, H&SS #6.  She reported  that if                                                            
the  Department   receives  the  $2  million  TANF   bonus  for  the                                                            
Behavioral  Health BRU, "the money  listed here in this fund  source                                                            
would not be available."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:42:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Baker returned  to H&SS #7 to  clarify that the funding  for the                                                            
coordinator position  that was vetoed was a position  located within                                                            
the  Department  of  Health  and  Social  Services  for faith-based                                                             
activities from "the Department  perspective". The funding requested                                                            
in  this  amendment  would be  utilized  to  fund  additional  staff                                                            
positions  to handle  the "Governor's  Admin order  on the  accounts                                                            
itself."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:43:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken furthered  that when the  effort to coordinate  and                                                            
utilize  community and  faith-based  services,  which was  supported                                                            
initially,  the Governor  or  the Lieutenant  Governor  intended  to                                                            
"reach  out  to the  fabric  of Alaska"  to  establish  a  voluntary                                                            
organization to coordinate  the services. He was therefore surprised                                                            
at the  FY 05 supplemental  budget  request as  well as the  request                                                            
detailed in  this amendment. He surmised  that to fund this  request                                                            
would  "build  a little  bureaucracy"  that  would be  difficult  to                                                            
discontinue.  In addition,  he questioned  the objective benefit  of                                                            
this  effort, noting  that no  analysis  has been  conducted on  the                                                            
expected contributions and results of the new program.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:44:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  agreed. He  asked if the program  could be  continued                                                            
with funding of the initial $68,000.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:45:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken replied  that  money would  be available  for  this                                                            
effort without the adoption of this amendment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:45:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson WITHDREW  his motion to adopt the amendment and it was                                                            
NOT OFFERED again.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:45:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs (cont.)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
M&VA  #2: This  amendment  deletes $33,800  general  funds from  the                                                            
Military   and  Veterans'   Affairs   BRU,  Air   Guard   Facilities                                                            
Maintenance component  of page 26, lines 20 and 21,  deletes $57,600                                                            
general funds  from the Alaska Military  Youth Academy component  on                                                            
lines 22  and 23,  and adds $91,400  general funds  to the  National                                                            
Guard  Military   Headquarters  component   on  lines  16   and  17.                                                            
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     There are 5 Family  Support Assistance Centers around the state                                                            
     that provide  support to families of National  Guard troops who                                                            
     are  deployed  around the  globe.  These centers  are  operated                                                            
     primarily by volunteers,  often spouses and friends of deployed                                                            
     personnel,  who see that the families' most pressing  needs are                                                            
     met, that  doctors appointments  are attended, that  someone is                                                            
     there  to help in case of sickness  or other family  emergency.                                                            
     Sometimes  volunteers go so far  as to drive family  members to                                                            
     the  doctor or dentist  or teacher  conference. Sometimes  they                                                            
     watch  the kids so mom  can go shopping  or take a much-needed                                                             
     break. Occasionally,  the volunteers will take money out of his                                                            
     or  her   own  pocket  to  buy   diapers,  formula,   or  other                                                            
     necessities for a deployed troop's family.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Troops  deployed away  from home, usually  into hostile  areas,                                                            
     are  often worried as  much about their  families back  home as                                                            
     they are  about their own safety.  Will they be taken  care of?                                                            
     Who will  help them if I'm not  there to help? What  if someone                                                            
     gets  sick? These  centers help  ease some  of the worry  about                                                            
     their families back home.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The funding requested  by this amendment will be distributed to                                                            
     each of  the five centers to  help them provide for  the direct                                                            
     costs  of incidental  supplies  and  services  to the  affected                                                            
     families as necessary.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  funding  comes from  funding  originally  established  for                                                            
     network  services  charged to the  department  and paid to  the                                                            
     Enterprise  Technology Services  Division of the Department  of                                                            
     Administration.   The  funds   are  charged  to  all   agencies                                                            
     regardless of whether  the agency uses the services or not. The                                                            
     Department  of Military and Veterans  Affairs, for example,  is                                                            
     anticipating  charges for ETS  services at the Alaska  Military                                                            
     Youth Academy,  Eielson Air Force Base, and Kulis  Air National                                                            
     Guard  Base in the amount of  $91.4 K even though they  receive                                                            
     no network services from ETS.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Enterprises   Technology  Services  (ETS)  requested   over  $3                                                            
     million  in general funds as  a fund change from charging  back                                                            
     their  services to the  user departments,  of which the  Senate                                                            
     Finance  Subcommittee approved  $3 million. One of the  reasons                                                            
     was that  their charge backs  were not equitable based  on use.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment  would delete  the funds DMVA had requested  for                                                            
     network  services  and  add those  funds  back for  the  Family                                                            
     Support Assistance Centers.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  stated  that  since the  completion  of  the  budget                                                            
subcommittee  process, the Department  identified other options  and                                                            
is requesting approval to exercise those options.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:46:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN KRAMER, Director,  Administrative Services Division, Department                                                            
of Military and  Veterans Affairs, testified to the  compromise with                                                            
the  directives  of the  House  of  Representatives  this  amendment                                                            
represents.  He told  of the 18,000  requests  responded to  through                                                            
this program in  the previous year. This program currently  receives                                                            
no State funding.  Soldiers leave  vacancies when they are  deployed                                                            
away from home.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:47:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked if  this amendment  would  have  a net  zero                                                            
affect.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson emphasized  this amendment would not increase funding.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kramer reaffirmed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:47:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  understood  funding  was included  for  the  Alaska                                                            
Military  Youth Academy  and the  Air Guard  Facilities Maintenance                                                             
components either  in the FY 05 supplemental appropriation,  or this                                                            
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:48:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kramer explained  that the funding referenced  in this amendment                                                            
is  for services  of  which  the Department   does not  receive  any                                                            
benefit. The Department  of Administration charges the Department of                                                            
Military and Veterans  Affairs for telephone and computer  services.                                                            
Because  these  facilities   are located   on  military  bases,  the                                                            
services  are not provided  by the State.  Although the funding  has                                                            
been included in the current  version of the FY 06 operating budget,                                                            
the Department  of Military and Veterans Affairs would  not transfer                                                            
those funds to the Department of Administration.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:49:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked of  any other discrepancies in the Department's                                                            
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:49:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Kramer  assured   that  the  finance  subcommittee   thoroughly                                                            
reviewed the Department's budget.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  announced  the  removal  of  his  objection  to  the                                                            
adoption of the amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The amendment  was ADOPTED; although  no formal motion to  adopt the                                                            
amendment was offered, it was the intent of the Committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
M&VA #2: This  amendment adds a new "Family Support"  component to a                                                            
new "Military  Headquarters"  BRU and appropriates  $50,000  general                                                            
funds to the component.  Accompanying explanatory  language reads as                                                            
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     There are 5 Family  Support Assistance Centers around the state                                                            
     that provide  support to families of National  Guard troops who                                                            
     are  deployed  around the  globe.  These centers  are  operated                                                            
     primarily by volunteers,  often spouses and friends of deployed                                                            
     personnel,  who see that the families' most pressing  needs are                                                            
     met, that  doctors appointments  are attended, that  someone is                                                            
     there  to help in case of sickness  or other family  emergency.                                                            
     Sometimes  volunteers go so far  as to drive family  members to                                                            
     the  doctor or dentist  or teacher  conference. Sometimes  they                                                            
     watch  the kids so mom  can go shopping  or take a much-needed                                                             
     break. Occasionally,  the volunteers will take money out of his                                                            
     or  her   own  pocket  to  buy   diapers,  formula,   or  other                                                            
     necessities for a deployed troop's family.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Troops  deployed away  from home, usually  into hostile  areas,                                                            
     are  often worried as  much about their  families back  home as                                                            
     they are  about their own safety.  Will they be taken  care of?                                                            
     Who will  help them if I'm not  there to help? What  if someone                                                            
     gets  sick? These  centers help  ease some  of the worry  about                                                            
     their families back home.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The funding requested by this amendment will provide $10,000                                                               
     to each of the five centers to help them provide for                                                                       
     incidental supplies and services as necessary.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
This amendment  was NOT OFFERED based  on the actions taken  on M&VA                                                            
#2.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Public Safety (cont.)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DPS #6: This  amendment adds $200,000  general funds to the  Council                                                            
on Domestic  Violence and Sexual Assault  BRU and component  on page                                                            
30, lines 28 and 29. Accompanying  explanatory language reads, "This                                                            
funding gives the Shelter Grants a 2% increase."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  reported an increase in the usage of  these shelters,                                                            
especially  in  the  previous  year.  In  addition,  prosecution  of                                                            
offenders  has increased.  The temporary  shelters  serve women  and                                                            
children of all areas of the State, both rural and urban.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:50:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson asked if  the amount requested in this amendment is in                                                            
addition to  the amount requested  by the Murkowski Administration.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:51:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  replied that the  adoption of this amendment  would                                                            
fund the  program in  the same amount  as approved  by the House  of                                                            
Representatives.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  relayed discussions  with  representatives  of  the                                                            
program,  in which  she learned  that funding  for  the program  has                                                            
remained  the same amount  for five  or six years.  It was  becoming                                                            
difficult  to maintain  the level  of service in  all the  locations                                                            
with the amount provided.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Wilken  removed   his  objection   and  without   further                                                            
objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:51:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Fish and Game (cont.)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
F&G  #2:  This  amendment   adds  $200,000  general   funds  to  the                                                            
Administration and Support  BRU, State Subsistence component on page                                                            
14,  line  24.  Accompanying   explanatory  language   reads,  "This                                                            
amendment adds  $200,000 in general funds for the  State Subsistence                                                            
allocation."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman moved for adoption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman read a statement into the record as follows.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     This is an increase  in the Division of Subsistence of $200,000                                                            
     in general  funds. Primarily both boards of fish  and game rely                                                            
     on  the   research  for  the   Subsistence  Division   to  make                                                            
     allocation   decisions   for   all  users.   Without   adequate                                                            
     information,  the  boards may  be forced  to make conservative                                                             
     harvest  allocations in areas  that could have been  opened for                                                            
     hunting and fishing throughout the State.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:52:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:52:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  shared his perception that the administration  of the                                                            
subsistence  program by the  State has been  well done. He  asked if                                                            
the sponsor shared this perception.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman answered he did.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked if  the amendment would provide funds over the                                                            
amount requested by the Governor.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:53:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  replied that this amendment represents  one-half of                                                            
the $400,000 requested by the Governor.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:53:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Health and Social Services (cont.)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
H&SS #8: This  amendment adds $500,000  general funds to  the Public                                                            
Health BRU, Women, Children  and Family Health component on page 19,                                                            
lines  26  and  27.  Accompanying  explanatory   language  reads  as                                                            
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Description: Expansion of Breast and Cervical Health Checks                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Provides  for expansion of the Breast & Cervical  Health Checks                                                            
     (pelvic  exam,  mammogram,  PAP  test)  to  eligible  women.  A                                                            
     women's  eligibility  is based on  income at  or below 250%  of                                                            
     federal  poverty level and no  other existing health  insurance                                                            
     coverage.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     This increment is intended to increase funding for FY 06, but                                                              
     the funding will not be included in the FY 07 base.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  overviewed the explanatory statement.  He pointed out                                                            
this  amendment would  provide  almost the  amount  approved by  the                                                            
House of  Representatives,  although over $1  million less  than the                                                            
Governor requested.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:54:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  noted  the  intent  that  this  funding  would  be                                                            
allocated  with  the expectation  that  a  system of  management  of                                                            
clients be implemented  and attempts be made to secure other federal                                                            
funding to supplant this general fund appropriation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:54:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  asked for clarification that eligibility  is limited                                                            
to women  with "no other  existing health  insurance coverage".  She                                                            
understood   that  the  services   are  available   to  women   with                                                            
"insufficient" health care coverage.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:55:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  MANDSAGER,   MD,  Director,  Division  of  Public   Health,                                                            
Department  of Health  and  Social Services,  was  unsure the  exact                                                            
eligibility requirements.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:55:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  requested  that the  language  of  the explanatory                                                             
statement conform to the existing provisions of the program.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:56:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken directed  the record reflect  instructions  to make                                                            
conforming changes to the amendment as necessary.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and without further objection                                                            
the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:56:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Fish and Game (cont.)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
F&G #3: This amendment  deletes $250,000 Test Fisheries Receipts and                                                            
adds  $250,000  general  funds  to  the  Commercial  Fisheries  BRU,                                                            
Westward Region Fisheries  Management component on page 13, lines 21                                                            
and 22. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment replaces an increase in Test Fisheries Receipts                                                             
     authorization with general funds.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman moved for adoption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  noted the  need for a technical  correction  to the                                                            
amendment.  This amendment  is intended  to reduce  the reliance  on                                                            
Test Fisheries  Receipts in Bristol  Bay. In the previous  year, the                                                            
State  contracted  with  processors  to harvest  $287,000  worth  of                                                            
salmon with  a contract rate  set at ten cents  a pound; well  below                                                            
the market  value of 40 cents  a pound. As  a result 551,000  salmon                                                            
weighing over  2.8 million pounds were harvested.  The Department of                                                            
Fish and Game needed to  reduce this harvest rate. In addition, cost                                                            
recovery  occurred in  the eastern side  of Bristol  Bay in  a mixed                                                            
stock area.  Unfortunately,  the majority  of fish  taken were  of a                                                            
certain river stock and  the mid-range escapement goals were not met                                                            
for that river. As a result  of this, the river fishery did not open                                                            
until late  July 2004, well after  the sockeye run finished.  Over 5                                                            
million  salmon,  at  an  estimated  cost of  $12  million,  from  a                                                            
different stock  migrated unharvested because of the  closure of the                                                            
other stock fishery.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:58:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken clarified  the correct  allocation  of the  changes                                                            
proposed in the amendment should be to the Central Region.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 5:58:37 PM/6:00:16 PM                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman verified this.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  offered a motion to amend the amendment  to specify                                                            
the fund  source  change be  made to  the Central  Region  Fisheries                                                            
Management component on lines 17 and 18.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was AMENDED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  removed  his  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment  and the  amended amendment  was ADOPTED  without  further                                                            
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:00:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Language Section (cont.)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LANG #3: This amendment  adds a subsection to Section 14. DEPARTMENT                                                            
OF EDUCATION AND EARLY  DEVELOPMENT., on page 28, line 14 to read as                                                            
follows                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          (b) The sum of $250,000 is appropriated from the general                                                              
     fund to the  Department of Education and Early  Development for                                                            
     the fiscal year ending  June 30, 2006, for payment as grants to                                                            
     each  school district  that operates a  charter school  with an                                                            
     average  daily membership of  150 or less for support  of those                                                            
     charter  schools in  those districts.  The amount appropriated                                                             
     for grants  by this section is  to be allocated among  eligible                                                            
     school  districts  in the  proportion  that the  average  daily                                                            
     membership  of eligible charter schools in a  district bears to                                                            
     the  total average  daily membership  of  all eligible  charter                                                            
     schools  in  all  school  district  that  operate  an  eligible                                                            
     charter school.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  told  of the  financial  struggles  of  the  charter                                                            
schools.  It is  difficult for  those schools  with  fewer than  150                                                            
students to operate.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:01:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken furthered  that an  allocation in  this amount  was                                                            
appropriated the previous fiscal year for this purpose.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:02:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
University of Alaska                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
UNV #1: This amendment  adds a "Statewide Administration"  component                                                            
to  the  University   of  Alaska  BRU  on  page  36,   line  28  and                                                            
appropriates   $1,065,000    general   funds   to   the   component.                                                            
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 63,  line 24 of SCS CS HB  67 (FIN) approves the  contract                                                            
     language  that forces the university  to switch all  bargaining                                                            
     units  to the existing University  of Alaska Health  care plan.                                                            
      Unfortunately, there is no corresponding appropriation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Through  active management UA  health care costs have  been and                                                            
     are substantially  lower than all other state  agencies. Moving                                                            
     UA  bargaining   units  to  the  US  choice  plan   is  another                                                            
     management  move to continue  to hold  health care costs  down.                                                            
     However,  the governor's amendment which addressed  these costs                                                            
     was not adopted by  the Finance subcommittee. For clarification                                                            
     purposes:  the  language in  the  bill removes  any  management                                                            
     options the  university has regarding this contract  and forces                                                            
     the university to eat these costs.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   moved  adoption   and  objected  for   discussion                                                            
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  explained this amendment is offered  as a result of                                                            
a bargaining unit agreement.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PETE   KELLY,  State  Relations,   University  of   Alaska,                                                            
testified  that  the University  labor  relations'  team  negotiated                                                            
employment contracts  with the various bargaining  units represented                                                            
at the University.  The Senate Finance  Committee recently  approved                                                            
those  contracts;  however,  language  contained  in  Section  23(b)                                                            
stipulates   that  the   appropriation   for  salary   and   benefit                                                            
adjustments  includes  the  terms  of  the  tentative  agreement  to                                                            
transition to the UA Choice Health Plan.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kelly  asserted that  this is a well-managed  plan  that has                                                            
reduced  the  per-employee  per-month  health  care  costs  for  the                                                            
University.   He   detailed   the   incentives,    bulk   purchasing                                                            
pharmaceutical  agreements and other aspects of the  plan. The costs                                                            
of other health  care plans provided  for bargaining unit  employees                                                            
not participating  in the UA Choice  Health Plan is estimated  to be                                                            
between $8,000  and $10,000  annually per employee  in eight  to ten                                                            
years and would  continue to increase. The intent  of the UA plan is                                                            
to manage the costs and lessen the cost increases in the future.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Kelly  stated   that  this  amendment   is  necessary   to                                                            
appropriate the funding  to implement the transition as provided for                                                            
in Section 23(b).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
6:05:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman clarified  that the  decision is  whether to  adopt                                                            
this  amendment  or  remove  the language  of  Section  23(b),  thus                                                            
eliminating  the transition  of all University  employees to  the UA                                                            
Choice Health Plan.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:05:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  replied that the language in question  is the result                                                            
of  significant  negotiation  efforts  and  that  to  eliminate  the                                                            
transition would require additional negotiations to occur.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:05:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson asked if  the University has considered establishing a                                                            
health savings account  for employees in conjunction with efforts to                                                            
reduce health care costs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:05:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly was unaware whether this has been considered.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:05:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  requested the matter  be given future consideration.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:05:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  asked the  University  of  Alaska's  plan if  this                                                            
amendment  were  not  adopted  but the  language  of  Section  23(b)                                                            
remained.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:06:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly replied  that the University would be in a "difficult                                                            
situation" because  the directive of the president  is to not engage                                                            
in "Washington Monument  discussions." However, the additional costs                                                            
would  be  absorbed  through  reduced  funding  for  classroom-type                                                             
programs.  Increments   for  behavioral  health,  nursing,   welding                                                            
technology, engineering  and others would be reduced. The University                                                            
would make  every effort to not reduce  funding for those  programs.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:06:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman asked  the budgetary  increment  this year for  the                                                            
University of Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:06:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly answered "five percent."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:06:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken informed  that  the current  version  of the FY  06                                                            
operating   budget  appropriates   approximately  $38  million   for                                                            
approved contracts  with employee bargaining units.  He offered this                                                            
amendment,  as it  is  similar to  the  approval the  Committee  has                                                            
granted  to  the   funding  costs  of  the  other  bargaining   unit                                                            
agreements.  These cost increases  are all the result of  collective                                                            
bargaining.  The   University  of  Alaska  should   not  be  treated                                                            
differently.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:07:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   asked  which  bargaining   unit  negotiated   the                                                            
agreement with the University of Alaska.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:07:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly replied  that four or five bargaining units represent                                                            
University employees.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  listed: Alaska Higher  Education Crafts and  Trades,                                                            
United  Academics  and  United  Academics-Adjuncts.   [She  did  not                                                            
mention Alaska Community  Colleges' Federation of Teachers, which is                                                            
included  in the  list  of affected  bargaining  unit  employees  in                                                            
Section 23(b).]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  removed  his  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman spoke to  his objection, relaying the efforts of the                                                            
University of  Alaska budget subcommittee in considering  the amount                                                            
to allocate to  the various increments of the University  system. He                                                            
admitted the initial amount  was inadequate, although the amount was                                                            
increased $4.5 million  through the full Committee process. Attempts                                                            
are being  made to contain  increases to three  to five percent  for                                                            
all agencies.  The University performs well, has advanced  and would                                                            
continue to do so. However, a funding limit must be established.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:09:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman shared the concerns of Senator Stedman.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:10:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked if the House  of Representatives approved  this                                                            
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:11:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly replied it did not.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:11:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson pointed  out  that the  conference  committee of  the                                                            
Senate and  the House of Representatives  that would be assigned  to                                                            
reach a final  compromise on this legislation could  not provide the                                                            
additional  funding to  the University  if this  amendment were  not                                                            
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:11:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked the  budget amounts for the University that the                                                            
conference committee would be allowed to consider.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:11:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong  responded that the House of Representatives  approved                                                            
$8.5 million  general funds  with $2.4 million  for PERS/TRS  costs,                                                            
and the current Senate version includes $11.9 million.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:12:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green noted  that line items  within the  budget could  be                                                            
conferencable, while others  could not. She understood that "several                                                            
million  dollars"  of  the  University   budget  were  eligible  for                                                            
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:12:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Teal  informed  that  currently,  two  transactions   would  be                                                            
eligible  for  consideration   by  the  conference  committee.   The                                                            
conference  committee could decide  to appropriate any amount  up to                                                            
$11.9 million  for the regular University  budget. In addition,  the                                                            
House  of  Representatives   approved  a  $3.4  million   allocation                                                            
specifically  for  PERS/TRS  expenses,  which  could be  adopted  or                                                            
reduced  by the conference  committee.  He continued  to detail  the                                                            
exact amounts.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:13:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  had understood   that the  appropriation  for  the                                                            
PERS/TRS  expenses were  included in  SB 141,  relating to  employee                                                            
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:13:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal  replied that  the Senate  has included  such funding  in a                                                            
fiscal note  for SB 141.  He noted, however,  that this information                                                             
would   not  be  included   in   the  fiscal   notes  eligible   for                                                            
consideration by the aforementioned budget conference committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:14:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion to adopt the UNV #1.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator Hoffman, Senator Olson, and Co-Chair Wilken                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Senator Stedman, Senator Dyson, and Co-Chair Green                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT: Senator Bunde                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The motion FAILED (3-3-1)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 6:15:10 PM/6:44:14 PM                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Language Section (cont.)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LANG #1: This amendment  deletes Section 15 of the bill, relating to                                                            
the Education Loan Program, on page 57, lines 1 through 5.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     A change  regarding use of student  loan origination  fees took                                                            
     effect on  June 17, 2004. CS SB 227 (FIN) Section  6 revised AS                                                            
     14.43.120(u)  to  remove a  "subject to  appropriation"  clause                                                            
     before fees could  be used by the ASLC. According to the Alaska                                                            
     Commission  on Postsecondary Education Director  Diane Barrans,                                                            
     Section 15 is no longer required.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[This amendment was adopted earlier in this meeting.]                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved to  rescind the Committee's action in adopting                                                            
the  amendment.  He  then  objected  to the  motion  to  receive  an                                                            
explanation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:44:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal  explained that  the Attorney General  had determined  that                                                            
the language of Section  15 was unnecessary due to statutory changes                                                            
made the  prior year. However,  the Division  of Legal and  Research                                                            
Services  advised that despite  the statutory  change, the  language                                                            
was necessary  in  appropriation legislation.  While  unsure of  the                                                            
correct determination,  he concluded  that because inclusion  of the                                                            
language  would not  be detrimental  and  because  exclusion of  the                                                            
language could be detrimental, the language should be included.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
6:46:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken removed  his objection  to the  motion and  earlier                                                            
action adopting  the amendment was RESCINDED. The  amendment was NOT                                                            
OFFERED for consideration again.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOT #2: This amendment  adds $6,470,800 Marine Highway  funds to the                                                            
Alaska  Marine   Highway  System   BRU,  Marine  Vessel   Operations                                                            
component  on page 36,  line 16. Accompanying  explanatory  language                                                            
reads as follows.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Technical Correction:                                                                                                      
     In the  computation for  the transfer  of the general  funds to                                                            
     the   Alaska   Marine  Highway   System   Fund   as  a   direct                                                            
     appropriation   to  the   operating   budget,  $6,470,800   was                                                            
      inadvertently omitted from the amount of the transfer.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for an explanation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  explained that this amendment corrects  an omission.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:46:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:47:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CCED  #2:   This  amendment   adds  $3  million   PCE  (Power   Cost                                                            
Equalization)  funds  to the  Alaska  Energy Authority  BRU,  Alaska                                                            
Energy Authority Power  Cost Equalization component on page 6, lines                                                            
31 and 32. Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     This   funding    boosts   the   PCE   program's   expenditure                                                             
     authorization  to $18.7 million (the traditional  funding level                                                            
     is $15.7 million.)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
This amendment also deletes  "$11,508,264" and inserts "$11,698,264"                                                            
from  subsection (m)  of Section  19.  FUND TRANSFERS.  The  amended                                                            
language on page 59, lines 11 through 20 reads as follows.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          (m) The amount necessary to provide the sum appropriated                                                              
     from   the  power   cost   equalization  and   rural   electric                                                            
     capitalization  fund  (AS 42.45.100)  by  sec. 1  of this  Act,                                                            
     after  any appropriations made  to that fund during  the fiscal                                                            
     year  ending  June  30,  2006,   are  taken  into  account,  is                                                            
     appropriated  from the power  cost equalization endowment  fund                                                            
     (AS  42.45.070)  to  the  power  cost  equalization  and  rural                                                            
     electric  capitalization fund.  However, in accordance  with AS                                                            
     42.45.085(a),  the amount appropriated  by this subsection  may                                                            
     not exceed seven percent  of the market value of the power cost                                                            
     equalization endowment  fund, determined by the commissioner of                                                            
     revenue  to be $11,698,264, minus  amounts appropriated  during                                                            
     the fiscal year ending  June 30, 2006, for reimbursement of the                                                            
     costs set out in AS 42.45.085(a)(2) and (3).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying  explanatory language  reads,  "This corrects an  error                                                            
that removed management fees twice."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
This amendment  also inserts  a new section  to the bill to  provide                                                            
that the sum of $2,500,000  is appropriated from the general fund to                                                            
the power cost  equalization and rural electric capitalization  fund                                                            
(AS 42.45.100).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This  portion  of  the amendment  capitalizes  the  Power  Cost                                                            
     Equalization  and  Rural  Electrification  Fund  (PCE Fund)  to                                                            
     ensure that enough  funding is available in the fund to support                                                            
     the additional $3 million appropriated from the fund.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          PCE Fund Capitalization                                                                                               
          GF                         $2,500,000                                                                                 
          Carry forward & Int             3,000                                                                                 
          PCE Endowment              11,698,300                                                                                 
          NPR-A Funding               5,153,400                                                                                 
          Fund Management              (192,700)                                                                                
          To PCE Fund              $19,162,000                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  explained that this amendment adds  $3 million to the                                                            
Power  Cost Equalization  program. The  total funding  would be  the                                                            
same amount  as approved by the House  of Representatives,  although                                                            
"well below"  the amount requested  by the Governor. The  additional                                                            
funding appropriated  in this amendment would be utilized  to offset                                                            
higher fuel prices  and maintenance of facilities  in rural areas of                                                            
the State. He requested  the Division of Legislative Finance provide                                                            
more detail.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:48:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal stated  that the first portion of the amendment,  adding $3                                                            
million PCE  funding, would increase  the amount that could  be paid                                                            
out as grants to $18.7  million. The second portion of the amendment                                                            
corrects an error in the  committee substitute and should be adopted                                                            
regardless of  action taken on the other portions  of the amendment.                                                            
The  endowment is  paying  out seven  percent, which  calculates  to                                                            
$11,698,264.   The  Division   had  subtracted   $192,000  in   fund                                                            
management  fees, unaware that the  Office of Management  and Budget                                                            
had already  taken the deduction in  the version of the budget  that                                                            
the  Governor  requested.  As a  result,  the management  fees  were                                                            
deducted twice.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal  emphasized the  $2.5 million appropriation  listed  in the                                                            
third portion of the amendment  is general funds. This is the amount                                                            
necessary  to  provide  the  additional  $3 million  for  grants  as                                                            
provided  for in the first  portion of the  amendment. A balance  in                                                            
the fund would provide the remaining $500,000.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:50:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson pointed  out  that this  amendment  would provide  $3                                                            
million in benefits for the "price" of $2.5 million.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:50:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  remarked that adjustments have been  made in the FY                                                            
06 operating  budget to account for  increased fuel costs.  In rural                                                            
areas  of  the State,  these  increases  are  more  significant  and                                                            
increased funding  is justified. The $3 million would  significantly                                                            
reduce  the substantial  increases  in the  cost of  power in  rural                                                            
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:51:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken maintained  his objection  to the  adoption of  the                                                            
amendment. All areas of  the state are facing difficulties caused by                                                            
higher power costs. The  Port of Anchorage has imposed a ten percent                                                            
surcharge on all cargo  passing through. The Committee has increased                                                            
funding for  the PCE program  over the FY  05 appropriation  and the                                                            
House of Representatives  approved  a higher amount. The  conference                                                            
committee  that would  be  appointed and  assigned  with reaching  a                                                            
compromise  between  the House  of Representatives   and the  Senate                                                            
versions of the FY 06 operating  budget would have an opportunity to                                                            
increase the funding up to the higher amount.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:52:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  clarified  the Committee was  voting on the  entire                                                            
amendment; the question was not divided.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:52:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator Hoffman, Senator Olson                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED:  Senator Dyson,  Senator  Stedman, Co-Chair  Green and  Co-                                                            
Chair Wilken                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT: Senator Bunde                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The motion FAILED (2-4-1)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
6:53:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CCED  #3: This  conceptual  amendment  is  comprised of  the  second                                                            
portion  of  CCED  #2,  which  deletes  "$11,508,264"   and  inserts                                                            
"$11,698,264"  from subsection  (m) of Section  19. FUND  TRANSFERS.                                                            
The  amended language  on  page 59,  lines 11  through  20 reads  as                                                            
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          (m) The amount necessary to provide the sum appropriated                                                              
     from   the  power   cost   equalization  and   rural   electric                                                            
     capitalization  fund  (AS 42.45.100)  by  sec. 1  of this  Act,                                                            
     after  any appropriations made  to that fund during  the fiscal                                                            
     year  ending  June  30,  2006,   are  taken  into  account,  is                                                            
     appropriated  from the power  cost equalization endowment  fund                                                            
     (AS  42.45.070)  to  the  power  cost  equalization  and  rural                                                            
     electric  capitalization fund.  However, in accordance  with AS                                                            
     42.45.085(a),  the amount appropriated  by this subsection  may                                                            
     not exceed seven percent  of the market value of the power cost                                                            
     equalization endowment  fund, determined by the commissioner of                                                            
     revenue  to be $11,698,264, minus  amounts appropriated  during                                                            
     the fiscal year ending  June 30, 2006, for reimbursement of the                                                            
     costs set out in AS 42.45.085(a)(2) and (3).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying  explanatory language  reads,  "This corrects an  error                                                            
that removed management fees twice."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved for adoption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 6:53:59 PM/6:55:08 PM                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken requested  a motion to allow  the bill drafters  to                                                            
conform  amendments  to  the  bill and  make  technical  changes  as                                                            
required. Co-Chair Green so moved.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the motion was ADOPTED.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  offered a motion to  report SCS CS HB 67  (FIN), 24-                                                            
GH1073\L,    as   amended,    from   Committee    with    individual                                                            
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  objected to inquire  when the final version  of the                                                            
bill would be delivered to the Committee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Teal  anticipated  the changes  to the bill  would be  completed                                                            
later that day.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  withdrew his objection. With no further  objection,                                                            
SCS CS HB 67 (FIN) MOVED from Committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:56:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The following amendment is specific to HB 66.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MH #2: This  amendment deletes Section  7 from the bill on  page 14,                                                            
lines 3 through 6. The deleted language reads as follows.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Sec. 7. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES. The sum                                                             
     of  $3,000,000 is  appropriated  from the  general fund/mental                                                             
     health  to the  Department of  Health and  Social Services  for                                                            
     costs  associated with fulfilling  the obligation of  the State                                                            
     of Alaska  related to the demolition and asbestos  abatement of                                                            
     the old Alaska Psychiatric Institute.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Accompanying explanatory language reads as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Given  the timing of  the operating  and capital appropriation                                                             
     decision making, standard  practice for capital projects in the                                                            
     Mental  Health   Bill  has  been  to  make  them   all  subject                                                            
     Conference  Committee  action. This amendment  removes  the API                                                            
     Asbestos  Abatement  project which  is contained  in the  House                                                            
     version of  the bill, thereby making it an item  for Conference                                                            
     Committee consideration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green moved for adoption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Armstrong  explained  that previous  practice  has been for  the                                                            
Senate  Finance Committee  remove one  item from  the Mental  Health                                                            
appropriation legislation  to allow for a conference committee to be                                                            
appointed  and fully  consider all  funding sections  of the  Mental                                                            
Health budget.  This amendment  would provide  that the entire  bill                                                            
would be subject to consideration by the conference committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken removed  his objection and the amendment was ADOPTED                                                            
without further objection.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:58:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green offered a motion to report SCS CS HB 66 (FIN), 24-                                                               
GH1075\Y, from Committee with individual recommendations.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and SCS CS HB 66 (FIN) MOVED from Committee.                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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